A "Rude and Vulgar Idea": That Our Works Aid Us In Possessing Redemption
"The Lord had formerly taught the same thing by his Prophet: "I will love them freely: for mine anger is turned away from him," (Hosea 14:4.) Assuredly he is not influenced by works if his love turns to us spontaneously. But the rude and vulgar idea entertained is, that we did not merit the interposition of Christ for our redemption, but that we are aided by our works in obtaining possession of it."
mark jones---Incidentally, when we discuss “how many works are necessary for salvation” it is important to note that in the realm of acceptatio, only Christ’s full obedience to the law will suffice because of the intrinsic value of his law-keeping before the justice of God. If we are speaking of acceptilatio, then we must move to the realm of sanctification where we can speak of “sincere obedience” as sufficient for walking on the path to glorification
Mark Jones--The Reformed,however, view imputation as according to truth”)— God considers Christ’s righteousness as ours, precisely BECAUSE it is ours, through union with him. The verdict that God passes on his Son is precisely the same as that which he passes on those who belong to him— “righteous”— but only through imputation. (Faith.Hope.Love, p. 53).
Mark Mcculley--but if I were to say that we only belong to HIM (are IN HIM) because of God's imputation to us of the merits of Christ's death, would that NOT be "according to truth"?
good works are not a cause or condition of salvation
"Salvation" is a result of God's grace and God's imputation of Christ's death
good works are part of "salvation"
"Salvation" is Necessary for Good Works
Proverbs 15:8 “The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD”
Romans 6:20 ”For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? The end of those thing is death”
Romans 7:4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we now bear FRUIT FOR GOD. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear FRUIT FOR DEATH.”
Luke 16:15 That which is highly esteemed among humans is abomination in the sight of God.
Mark Jones--Man exercises faith in order to receive the saving benefits of Christ’s works of impetration... Good works a necessary part of our perseverance in the faith in order to receive eternal life. Good works are consequent conditions of having been saved.
Nathan J. Langerak, --What Mark Jones means by “consequent conditions” is that they are new conditions of salvation imposed on the saved person because the person is now saved
No benefits applied before faith is exercised? Is not faith itself applied before it is exercised? What about regeneration
mark jones---Incidentally, when we discuss “how many works are necessary for salvation” it is important to note that in the realm of acceptatio, only Christ’s full obedience to the law will suffice because of the intrinsic value of his law-keeping before the justice of God. If we are speaking of acceptilatio, then we must move to the realm of sanctification where we can speak of “sincere obedience” as sufficient for walking on the path to glorification
ReplyDeleteMark Jones--The Reformed,however, view imputation as according to truth”)— God considers Christ’s righteousness as ours, precisely BECAUSE it is ours, through union with him. The verdict that God passes on his Son is precisely the same as that which he passes on those who belong to him— “righteous”— but only through imputation. (Faith.Hope.Love, p. 53).
Mark Mcculley--but if I were to say that we only belong to HIM (are IN HIM) because of God's imputation to us of the merits of Christ's death, would that NOT be "according to truth"?
HTTPS://CALVINISTINTERNATIONAL.COM/2017/11/23/ARMINIANS-GO-HEAVEN/
good works are not a cause or condition of salvation
"Salvation" is a result of God's grace and God's imputation of Christ's death
good works are part of "salvation"
"Salvation" is Necessary for Good Works
Proverbs 15:8 “The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD”
Romans 6:20 ”For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? The end of those thing is death”
Romans 7:4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we now bear FRUIT FOR GOD. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear FRUIT FOR DEATH.”
Luke 16:15 That which is highly esteemed among humans is abomination in the sight of God.
Mark Jones--Man exercises faith in order to receive the saving benefits of Christ’s works of impetration... Good works a necessary part of our perseverance in the faith in order to receive eternal life. Good works are consequent conditions of having been saved.
ReplyDeleteNathan J. Langerak, --What Mark Jones means by “consequent conditions” is that they are new conditions of salvation imposed on the saved person because the person is now saved
No benefits applied before faith is exercised? Is not faith itself applied before it is exercised? What about regeneration
https://rfpa.org/blogs/news/the-charge-of-antinomianism-3-against-an-unconditional-covenant